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Feb. 1st, 2008 04:49 pmThat guy from The Wire...could he be allied with the Others? Presumably the Oceanic conspirators are related to the Newcomers, who Ben fears.
The jewelry shop woman wanted Desmond to think his out-of-sequence memories would come true of necessity--hence that pub demonstration. And that things would "course correct" if he interfered with specifics (meaning they therefore don't, or at any rate not in a way that can't be fought: we never find out if he prevented the bartender from being struck, for example, since he was jarred to another concussion on his timeline). This makes him essentially resigned to Charlie's fate, so that, after saving him a few times (which presumably he was supposed to?), but still getting visions, his despair convinces Charlie that Charlie's fate is to drown after disengaging the signal blocker.
Which means the point of Desmond's having been given the visions (and possibly the point, or co-point with his hatch activities, of Desmond's having been sent to the island) was to get Charlie in there.
Now then: did they want him there to disengage the blocker, or to answer the transmission from Penelope?
Presumably the former, which implies they're in it with these freaky all-languages-speaking newcomers (Naomi's absurdly inappropriate final apology was a VERY subtle touch).
Jewelry lady/Newcomers/Oceanic vs. Others/guy from The Wire
Though of course they may represent a conflict within a single entity. Ben's allowing the Island to be cut off from the world may have been a sneaky coup, and his insistence that the Newcomers would kill everyone on the island a lie to protect himself and his plans--which involved solving the reproduction problem and building a landing strip, I guess?
And this would explain how the jewelry lady demonstrated the same coincidence-manipulating powers Richard did--which also seem to be shared by Walt and Claire (who wished her mother to death, unwittingly).
Walt's mother was a high-powered international lawyer, indicating he may have been part of their fate-based breeding plans. Getting him away from Michael also meant they could do stuff to him, I guess--which may mean Vincent the mystery dog has some meaningful role. And Penelope's meeting Desmond was very staged (not that I'm suggesting she was in on it, but possibly her father was, and probably the monk dude was).
Oh, I forgot. Charlie's presumably authentic memory of saving Sayid's long-lost love didn't have Desmond in it. What the hell is one to make of that? Was Desmond's whole meeting with him manufactured (yet carefully based on Charlie's own memories? I guess they could have done something like that, since Charlie was also in the hatch, hence conceivably in their power at the same time Desmond might have been). Or did Desmond really meet Charlie, but in a world split off from the one Charlie remembered because Desmond's mental time travel had made his own behavior different, thus creating a subtly different universe. I hope not, that stuff gets annoying quick.
What else is vexing? How Jack was so far into the jungle, on waking--out of EARSHOT of the noisy crash scene. One doesn't survive that kind of fling.
The comic book and the VERY careful editing so we couldn't seen if Hugo brought it onto the plain, or if it was an Island object.
The jewelry shop woman wanted Desmond to think his out-of-sequence memories would come true of necessity--hence that pub demonstration. And that things would "course correct" if he interfered with specifics (meaning they therefore don't, or at any rate not in a way that can't be fought: we never find out if he prevented the bartender from being struck, for example, since he was jarred to another concussion on his timeline). This makes him essentially resigned to Charlie's fate, so that, after saving him a few times (which presumably he was supposed to?), but still getting visions, his despair convinces Charlie that Charlie's fate is to drown after disengaging the signal blocker.
Which means the point of Desmond's having been given the visions (and possibly the point, or co-point with his hatch activities, of Desmond's having been sent to the island) was to get Charlie in there.
Now then: did they want him there to disengage the blocker, or to answer the transmission from Penelope?
Presumably the former, which implies they're in it with these freaky all-languages-speaking newcomers (Naomi's absurdly inappropriate final apology was a VERY subtle touch).
Jewelry lady/Newcomers/Oceanic vs. Others/guy from The Wire
Though of course they may represent a conflict within a single entity. Ben's allowing the Island to be cut off from the world may have been a sneaky coup, and his insistence that the Newcomers would kill everyone on the island a lie to protect himself and his plans--which involved solving the reproduction problem and building a landing strip, I guess?
And this would explain how the jewelry lady demonstrated the same coincidence-manipulating powers Richard did--which also seem to be shared by Walt and Claire (who wished her mother to death, unwittingly).
Walt's mother was a high-powered international lawyer, indicating he may have been part of their fate-based breeding plans. Getting him away from Michael also meant they could do stuff to him, I guess--which may mean Vincent the mystery dog has some meaningful role. And Penelope's meeting Desmond was very staged (not that I'm suggesting she was in on it, but possibly her father was, and probably the monk dude was).
Oh, I forgot. Charlie's presumably authentic memory of saving Sayid's long-lost love didn't have Desmond in it. What the hell is one to make of that? Was Desmond's whole meeting with him manufactured (yet carefully based on Charlie's own memories? I guess they could have done something like that, since Charlie was also in the hatch, hence conceivably in their power at the same time Desmond might have been). Or did Desmond really meet Charlie, but in a world split off from the one Charlie remembered because Desmond's mental time travel had made his own behavior different, thus creating a subtly different universe. I hope not, that stuff gets annoying quick.
What else is vexing? How Jack was so far into the jungle, on waking--out of EARSHOT of the noisy crash scene. One doesn't survive that kind of fling.
The comic book and the VERY careful editing so we couldn't seen if Hugo brought it onto the plain, or if it was an Island object.
