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May. 14th, 2009 01:11 amTrying to get all this straight, since they've actually revealed stuff for the first time in months:
Okay, so we have real-Jacob (their 2nd Mulholland Drive casting, isn't it?) and fake-Jacob, who I'll alternately call Esau and Facob. Esau is homicidally mad at Jacob, so he may represent the god of this world, seeking to destroy an invader from space and/or the future.
It's possible Facob was stuck in a wandering cabin surrounded by a magical circle, in which Jacob had once lived. Jacob left a woven message explaining he was there no longer. The circle became broken at some point - I have no memory of when - which I guess permitted Facob's escape.
Facob, and possibly Jacob, can assume the forms of any dead people whose parts are taken under the temple. The Christian shoe episode presumably was about getting Locke-gunk - from his corpse - to touch Christian-gunk. Maybe Facob can only be one person at a time, and makes his transferences through the touching of dead flesh to dead flesh?
Facob had to impersonate Locke, who therefore had to be dead, so that Richard would permit him to bring Ben into the Foot to kill Jacob. It's left unclear whether this was truly the most direct way to get a shot at Jacob, or whether Ben's having turned the wheel is what gave him the ability to kill Jacob (or to act with free will?).
Presumably it's Jacob himself who helps out the various core cast members at key moments in their lives - including possibly resurrecting Locke, which gives the show the ability to bring back the real Locke next year. Both Jacob and Facob seem to want Hurley to go back to the island, by that logic, though - Facob appears as Charlie, Jacob as himself. It's possible Facob can appear as Jacob, though - and of course that Jacob, too, can inhabit the dead. Jacob's present body may even be that of a dead human, and if any genetic traces are enough to reconstruct one I guess both could inhabit the same form if they liked.
Since Ben is led to sympathy with the Others by the apparition of his mother in the jungle, does that mean Facob singled him out? Richard is initially impressed with Ben because he has seen vision-people. Does Richard not know about Facob?
True-Jacob despises Ben for having killed his father, the thing Ben so desperately tries to make Locke do too (hence he's suspected that this is why Jacob only contacts him through Richard) - presumably this is a game-breaker for TJ. Is he / does he want to be an all-father, and therefore finds this threatening? For good reason, we find out, but it's interesting that he can't even fake another emotion to hide his contempt even when he's about to be stabbed.
Seems to all still be compatible with my god-from-the-future theory. They're presenting Jacob as the nicer one, but they do that with almost every villain - it's their trademark reversal.
Some of the dumber moments of the season now look smart - e.g. Locke's telling Richard to tell his own earlier self that everyone needed to come back or the island was doomed or whatever. Not a [direct] paradox if it's the command of a different entity entirely.
Okay, so we have real-Jacob (their 2nd Mulholland Drive casting, isn't it?) and fake-Jacob, who I'll alternately call Esau and Facob. Esau is homicidally mad at Jacob, so he may represent the god of this world, seeking to destroy an invader from space and/or the future.
It's possible Facob was stuck in a wandering cabin surrounded by a magical circle, in which Jacob had once lived. Jacob left a woven message explaining he was there no longer. The circle became broken at some point - I have no memory of when - which I guess permitted Facob's escape.
Facob, and possibly Jacob, can assume the forms of any dead people whose parts are taken under the temple. The Christian shoe episode presumably was about getting Locke-gunk - from his corpse - to touch Christian-gunk. Maybe Facob can only be one person at a time, and makes his transferences through the touching of dead flesh to dead flesh?
Facob had to impersonate Locke, who therefore had to be dead, so that Richard would permit him to bring Ben into the Foot to kill Jacob. It's left unclear whether this was truly the most direct way to get a shot at Jacob, or whether Ben's having turned the wheel is what gave him the ability to kill Jacob (or to act with free will?).
Presumably it's Jacob himself who helps out the various core cast members at key moments in their lives - including possibly resurrecting Locke, which gives the show the ability to bring back the real Locke next year. Both Jacob and Facob seem to want Hurley to go back to the island, by that logic, though - Facob appears as Charlie, Jacob as himself. It's possible Facob can appear as Jacob, though - and of course that Jacob, too, can inhabit the dead. Jacob's present body may even be that of a dead human, and if any genetic traces are enough to reconstruct one I guess both could inhabit the same form if they liked.
Since Ben is led to sympathy with the Others by the apparition of his mother in the jungle, does that mean Facob singled him out? Richard is initially impressed with Ben because he has seen vision-people. Does Richard not know about Facob?
True-Jacob despises Ben for having killed his father, the thing Ben so desperately tries to make Locke do too (hence he's suspected that this is why Jacob only contacts him through Richard) - presumably this is a game-breaker for TJ. Is he / does he want to be an all-father, and therefore finds this threatening? For good reason, we find out, but it's interesting that he can't even fake another emotion to hide his contempt even when he's about to be stabbed.
Seems to all still be compatible with my god-from-the-future theory. They're presenting Jacob as the nicer one, but they do that with almost every villain - it's their trademark reversal.
Some of the dumber moments of the season now look smart - e.g. Locke's telling Richard to tell his own earlier self that everyone needed to come back or the island was doomed or whatever. Not a [direct] paradox if it's the command of a different entity entirely.