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proximoception) wrote2010-02-03 02:14 am
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They're framing Jacob as good and his pet evil (white and black shirts, the favors Jacob does the island-bound, the pet's irateness and cynicism about people etc.), and will then dally with the possibility of it being the other way (like they did with Widmore vs. Ben in seasons 3-5). There are already undertones: "What about you?" addressed to Ben had more of a 'puny insect' than 'selfish villain' ring.
Although: Sayid could be another trojan horse--perhaps the monster, after Jacob's death, was able to appear as Jacob to Hurley. He can't enter Sayid till Sayid dies, but if the Others drown Sayid while waiting for Jacob-magic to come out of the pool, magic which died with Jacob, the monster can once again fool everyone by animating Sayid's corpse. Though does he ever animate corpses, rather than reconstructing them? Maybe Sayid had already died and he's just pretending to be his body--was there some scene where everyone leaves Sayid alone for a while? I seem to remember there was. So Jacob really might be dead (though that's not the most compelling route dramatically), and the monster maybe now has access to the real temple and whatever's in it. Could Jacob be just a mortal-type immortal, a la Richard and the presumably very old samurai? We do see him eating fish, lighting a fire. Maybe he just got control of the monster way back when and is using him to pursue grandiose plans, like a boy finding a genie in a bottle.
Smoky wants to go home, perhaps "somewhere beyond the sea", while Jacob wants to make a sort of progress. That implies he's behind the breeding experiments, and his desire to be worshipped in statue form and compel medicinal ziggurat construction fits the notion he's up to something big and long-term. Walt has been let off the hook, and perhaps also Aaron, so Ethan and Claire (birthplace?) are the likeliest candidates for hosting Jacob or parenting his super-race or what have you. Not Sun surely? Unless her daughter's brought back. Though her father's pretty shady...Christian was probably really in on all this somehow, so what if him too?
What are the rules to Smoky? 1. Don't kill master, 2. Come when called, 3. Don't pass cocoa powder...He retinal-scanned Juliet at one point so maybe he can't hurt island Others? Also he backed down from hurting Locke, so perhaps he has to respect the lists. Though he can clearly destroy the off-island cultists. He also couldn't help Locke up when Locke's leg was broken from the fall down the well--perhaps the order extends to even touching Others?
What does he want with Sun? Clearly her ring and Christian's shoes--mailed mysteriously--somehow routed her and Locke's body to the present, so a "but that's not my ring" scene might be coming, or one in which Jin is given the ring by a Smoky stand-in. What routed Ben to the present? Probably simply not being one of the people Jacob needed, so he was stuck with Jeff Fahey and other inconsequential people.
Again they tease us with that damn watch. Did the comic book show up? Years ago we went frame by frame through Hugo's plane scenes to see if it was his, finding that every shot was deliberately constructed so you couldn't quite tell.
The quantum physics parallel worlds notion is so exasperating.
They've done nothing with Ben's lost love in quite a while. Ditto Libby's madness.
Jacob's symbols appeared when the numbers ran wild, belying the apathy everyone else displays toward the Swan button-pushing project.
Are Jacob & his dog from space or homegrown? The show whistles innocently around the possibility that one or both are behind monotheism. Faith and obedience ultimately get everyone in trouble, in these storylines. "Christian" indeed.
I forget the details of my theory--something about a nonexistent entity manipulating probability to make itself exist? Kind of a parody of the 'if you can imagine a perfect being it must exist, since how can something that fails to exist be perfect' argument. Exploiting micro-currents of quantum temporal instability to push the things around in the past that could lead to the one future in which it dwells (could any of these people have read Little, Big)? Something like an unreal lake swimming back up the river that would have created it if it existed, sucking its waters into the relevant changing of course. But the energies employed to accomplish this (big coincidence magnet-furnace) can be used against it--the same free play at a tiny level that it's exploiting to braid itself into being has spilled into (e.g.) Desmond's head, so the Thing will ultimately be defeated by Free Will in some probably fairly cheesy way.
Not sure how well that fits with the Jacob-as-mere-human theory. Probably not too well.
Although: Sayid could be another trojan horse--perhaps the monster, after Jacob's death, was able to appear as Jacob to Hurley. He can't enter Sayid till Sayid dies, but if the Others drown Sayid while waiting for Jacob-magic to come out of the pool, magic which died with Jacob, the monster can once again fool everyone by animating Sayid's corpse. Though does he ever animate corpses, rather than reconstructing them? Maybe Sayid had already died and he's just pretending to be his body--was there some scene where everyone leaves Sayid alone for a while? I seem to remember there was. So Jacob really might be dead (though that's not the most compelling route dramatically), and the monster maybe now has access to the real temple and whatever's in it. Could Jacob be just a mortal-type immortal, a la Richard and the presumably very old samurai? We do see him eating fish, lighting a fire. Maybe he just got control of the monster way back when and is using him to pursue grandiose plans, like a boy finding a genie in a bottle.
Smoky wants to go home, perhaps "somewhere beyond the sea", while Jacob wants to make a sort of progress. That implies he's behind the breeding experiments, and his desire to be worshipped in statue form and compel medicinal ziggurat construction fits the notion he's up to something big and long-term. Walt has been let off the hook, and perhaps also Aaron, so Ethan and Claire (birthplace?) are the likeliest candidates for hosting Jacob or parenting his super-race or what have you. Not Sun surely? Unless her daughter's brought back. Though her father's pretty shady...Christian was probably really in on all this somehow, so what if him too?
What are the rules to Smoky? 1. Don't kill master, 2. Come when called, 3. Don't pass cocoa powder...He retinal-scanned Juliet at one point so maybe he can't hurt island Others? Also he backed down from hurting Locke, so perhaps he has to respect the lists. Though he can clearly destroy the off-island cultists. He also couldn't help Locke up when Locke's leg was broken from the fall down the well--perhaps the order extends to even touching Others?
What does he want with Sun? Clearly her ring and Christian's shoes--mailed mysteriously--somehow routed her and Locke's body to the present, so a "but that's not my ring" scene might be coming, or one in which Jin is given the ring by a Smoky stand-in. What routed Ben to the present? Probably simply not being one of the people Jacob needed, so he was stuck with Jeff Fahey and other inconsequential people.
Again they tease us with that damn watch. Did the comic book show up? Years ago we went frame by frame through Hugo's plane scenes to see if it was his, finding that every shot was deliberately constructed so you couldn't quite tell.
The quantum physics parallel worlds notion is so exasperating.
They've done nothing with Ben's lost love in quite a while. Ditto Libby's madness.
Jacob's symbols appeared when the numbers ran wild, belying the apathy everyone else displays toward the Swan button-pushing project.
Are Jacob & his dog from space or homegrown? The show whistles innocently around the possibility that one or both are behind monotheism. Faith and obedience ultimately get everyone in trouble, in these storylines. "Christian" indeed.
I forget the details of my theory--something about a nonexistent entity manipulating probability to make itself exist? Kind of a parody of the 'if you can imagine a perfect being it must exist, since how can something that fails to exist be perfect' argument. Exploiting micro-currents of quantum temporal instability to push the things around in the past that could lead to the one future in which it dwells (could any of these people have read Little, Big)? Something like an unreal lake swimming back up the river that would have created it if it existed, sucking its waters into the relevant changing of course. But the energies employed to accomplish this (big coincidence magnet-furnace) can be used against it--the same free play at a tiny level that it's exploiting to braid itself into being has spilled into (e.g.) Desmond's head, so the Thing will ultimately be defeated by Free Will in some probably fairly cheesy way.
Not sure how well that fits with the Jacob-as-mere-human theory. Probably not too well.
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