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Mar. 24th, 2015 12:30 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
So we have:
Sasha attacking the zombies directly.
Michonne temporarily going along with it, as though a relapsing addict.
Rick being about to murder Pete - maybe. The writers probably think there's a line they can't cross without risking audience sympathy for the main character, so he keeps hovering at the same brink without quite clearly intending to kill someone not an active threat.
The congresswoman withholding judgement or punishment, past insisting both Glenn and the curly haired guy stay in the compound.
The congresswoman doing nothing about Pete and hoping it gets better.
Pete's wife doing nothing and hoping it gets better.
Pete's wife putting a latch in Sam's closet, along the lines of the wall.
So the Pete threat is likened to the zombies - conceivably an existential rather than damaging one, but trying to deal with it might cost more lives than it saves (because of the loss of his surgery skills, in his case). When a threat is not live but might become so at any time, do you treat it as live or as not?
Carol assumes the worst: Ed would have killed her, but of course we wonder if she brings this up because some part of her wants to exact revenge by proxy. Likewise Rick's motives for going after Pete are mixed. One reason to not assume potential threats are live ones is that ulterior motives can dictate what sorts of non-obvious threats are obviously about to be obvious, so to speak.
Sasha shoots every zombie at the wall, despite the fact that they present no true threats, and thst doing this is running some pretty obvious friendly fire risks.
Is the red balloon's flight a symbol of the loss of innocence of the community? Or of Rick, in context?
Glenn is "saving" the one guy through what sounds like threats. Related to the Rick problem?
The teens are on about fear and adrenaline addiction.
Any thematic connection between all this and the W gang? I guess they represent the worst that can come of staying "outside" - they brand the zombies and eat them, thus are little different from them (the "tainted" mest scene with Bob at the other end of the season maybe foreshadowed this asymptotic approach?). They rip the zombies apart the way zombies rip up people.
"You have to fight" in there, too. But do you? The group is much more competent, when outside the walls. Are they when inside?
The hispanic girl functioned as voice of reason here, and their weapons seemed symbolic - Michonne's illegal (?) gun, her legal knife.
The tower ... anything panoptical going on there? If you're looking everywhere for threats you will see them, is I guess the point.
So even the teenage girl wasn't a real threat? But someone did take Rick's gun stash.
Sasha's shooting vs. the crossbow shot seemed a similarly loaded juxtaposition - the minimal force necessary for "defensive" offense, compared to a standing army that will look for reasons to exist.
Is the fear in the teens about how they were raised to be "outside," have internalized a threat-based view of existence, so even the racing pulse of attraction gets reacted to as a fight or flight response?
The congresswoman saw through the guy's lies but still burned the condolence card. You feared she'd take his side and plot against them, but the point was instead that she realized they were coming from a different place, oerhaps even thst their offers of friendship were insincere, and that their way and hers might really not be compatible. But she takes no actions anyway, plays defense and/or retreats (which, is the auestion raised again and again - the curly haired guys actions don't seem like danctioned policy after all).
Re. last week, Glenn's decision to try to save the son was a similarly bad call to the curly haired guy's, since if Abraham hadn't stopped him (another voice of reason?) he would have died.
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Her courting of Rick doesn't seem to have been infouenced bu the congresswoman after all, so it's instead a parallel to her - she's letting her wall down to let in an "outside" protective presence, hence the cut from the garage door to the outer wall. True, she was closing it but she didn't close it decisively.
(Earlier in the series the prison was of course symbolic - but of anything wider? Or were the zombies just zombies back then?)
Going through the window ... the moment where Rick decisively breaks down the wall, or proves it to have not existed?
We don't actually hesr Sam telling Carol these things. Could she have lied? I mean, they seem true, but perhaps there was some enhancement - like the lying on the floor unconscious and bleeding part?
The teens speak of its being "natural." The hollow tree - their preferred home? The W people rio apart a zombie on a tree also, like a lynching almost. Fight or flight in the woods is the natural state of animals but not necessairly of human beings? Or is the important thing here that we can't auite tell, can only see individuals failing in both directions?
Mochonne accepts the mantle of responsibility - dealing out the violence neded to prevent violence, i.e. deciding which threats are truly imminent. In the Rick vs. Pete fight it was Rick that was. He'd lost his place as sheriff, and not just in the town. Paranoia led to corruption, or vice versa? I guess the problem is who can know - hence avoid both. Never let what you want affect what you think you know?
And yet Rick could be totally right. Even Sasha could. These particular zombies might have killed someone trying to leave or get in.
Why the opening image of the oncoming zombie. Just the keynote of threat? Intercut with the people who might end up being the real threat?
Yes, the standing army problem. And the veteran problem.
Is this Derridean or Foucauldian? Or neither?
Sasha attacking the zombies directly.
Michonne temporarily going along with it, as though a relapsing addict.
Rick being about to murder Pete - maybe. The writers probably think there's a line they can't cross without risking audience sympathy for the main character, so he keeps hovering at the same brink without quite clearly intending to kill someone not an active threat.
The congresswoman withholding judgement or punishment, past insisting both Glenn and the curly haired guy stay in the compound.
The congresswoman doing nothing about Pete and hoping it gets better.
Pete's wife doing nothing and hoping it gets better.
Pete's wife putting a latch in Sam's closet, along the lines of the wall.
So the Pete threat is likened to the zombies - conceivably an existential rather than damaging one, but trying to deal with it might cost more lives than it saves (because of the loss of his surgery skills, in his case). When a threat is not live but might become so at any time, do you treat it as live or as not?
Carol assumes the worst: Ed would have killed her, but of course we wonder if she brings this up because some part of her wants to exact revenge by proxy. Likewise Rick's motives for going after Pete are mixed. One reason to not assume potential threats are live ones is that ulterior motives can dictate what sorts of non-obvious threats are obviously about to be obvious, so to speak.
Sasha shoots every zombie at the wall, despite the fact that they present no true threats, and thst doing this is running some pretty obvious friendly fire risks.
Is the red balloon's flight a symbol of the loss of innocence of the community? Or of Rick, in context?
Glenn is "saving" the one guy through what sounds like threats. Related to the Rick problem?
The teens are on about fear and adrenaline addiction.
Any thematic connection between all this and the W gang? I guess they represent the worst that can come of staying "outside" - they brand the zombies and eat them, thus are little different from them (the "tainted" mest scene with Bob at the other end of the season maybe foreshadowed this asymptotic approach?). They rip the zombies apart the way zombies rip up people.
"You have to fight" in there, too. But do you? The group is much more competent, when outside the walls. Are they when inside?
The hispanic girl functioned as voice of reason here, and their weapons seemed symbolic - Michonne's illegal (?) gun, her legal knife.
The tower ... anything panoptical going on there? If you're looking everywhere for threats you will see them, is I guess the point.
So even the teenage girl wasn't a real threat? But someone did take Rick's gun stash.
Sasha's shooting vs. the crossbow shot seemed a similarly loaded juxtaposition - the minimal force necessary for "defensive" offense, compared to a standing army that will look for reasons to exist.
Is the fear in the teens about how they were raised to be "outside," have internalized a threat-based view of existence, so even the racing pulse of attraction gets reacted to as a fight or flight response?
The congresswoman saw through the guy's lies but still burned the condolence card. You feared she'd take his side and plot against them, but the point was instead that she realized they were coming from a different place, oerhaps even thst their offers of friendship were insincere, and that their way and hers might really not be compatible. But she takes no actions anyway, plays defense and/or retreats (which, is the auestion raised again and again - the curly haired guys actions don't seem like danctioned policy after all).
Re. last week, Glenn's decision to try to save the son was a similarly bad call to the curly haired guy's, since if Abraham hadn't stopped him (another voice of reason?) he would have died.
...
Her courting of Rick doesn't seem to have been infouenced bu the congresswoman after all, so it's instead a parallel to her - she's letting her wall down to let in an "outside" protective presence, hence the cut from the garage door to the outer wall. True, she was closing it but she didn't close it decisively.
(Earlier in the series the prison was of course symbolic - but of anything wider? Or were the zombies just zombies back then?)
Going through the window ... the moment where Rick decisively breaks down the wall, or proves it to have not existed?
We don't actually hesr Sam telling Carol these things. Could she have lied? I mean, they seem true, but perhaps there was some enhancement - like the lying on the floor unconscious and bleeding part?
The teens speak of its being "natural." The hollow tree - their preferred home? The W people rio apart a zombie on a tree also, like a lynching almost. Fight or flight in the woods is the natural state of animals but not necessairly of human beings? Or is the important thing here that we can't auite tell, can only see individuals failing in both directions?
Mochonne accepts the mantle of responsibility - dealing out the violence neded to prevent violence, i.e. deciding which threats are truly imminent. In the Rick vs. Pete fight it was Rick that was. He'd lost his place as sheriff, and not just in the town. Paranoia led to corruption, or vice versa? I guess the problem is who can know - hence avoid both. Never let what you want affect what you think you know?
And yet Rick could be totally right. Even Sasha could. These particular zombies might have killed someone trying to leave or get in.
Why the opening image of the oncoming zombie. Just the keynote of threat? Intercut with the people who might end up being the real threat?
Yes, the standing army problem. And the veteran problem.
Is this Derridean or Foucauldian? Or neither?