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Tried to check out the new X-Files on Hulu just to see but it ended up playing the pilot. I was like "This is surprisingly interesting but seems kind of dated" for the first seconds, then decided to just watch the thing. No Lost viewer should be allowed to, clearly (since there seems to be even solider consensus that it devolves into un-fun, un-self-consistent, uninspired bullshit).

The extent to which this show mediated Twin Peaks for Lost was also surprising and surprisingly obvious. "Twin Peaks except we ditch the teenage girl stuff promptly and promise everything is ultimately aliens rather than David Lynch's mindhole" is aggressively telegraphed - coattails are being ridden in on. Lots of other shows were trying the same thing around the same time (Northern Exposure imitating the humorous aspects etc.), and I of course realized there was some influence, but it's strange to think of The X-Files as not having stood on its own two feet at first. Though maybe I'm underrating its originality because everything that isn't Twin Peaks-y is Lost-y, pretty much. And of course much is both. I guess it's rare in the world to find an apparent originality that isn't instead just a link in a tradition new to you, but on t.v. it's practically an iron law.

The line readings are terrible and the actors have no idea what to make of their characters yet, unlike in the very polished Lost pilot, to say nothing of the Twin Peaks one, plus the pace is jagged and the degree of network tv audience-handholding very annoying, but the tease elements are irresistible. J.J. Abrams' soul was delivered into the world by whatever that vial doohickey is.

I think I saw one or two very early episodes and found them dull or silly, and then disliked everything I heard about the show from the people I met who liked it (and more importantly disliked those people), and then largely lacked cable or reception for fifteen years. I did watch the clairvoyance episode because a friend said it was the best thing she'd ever seen, but I'd thought through the issues involved by then so found it tedious - and kind of wonder if you need be a legitimate depressive to see glory in it. Then I took a stab at a couple of the supposed "bests" recently and was only fitfully amused. So I'm going to resist this. I need to not care why he painted a red X, who the guy smoking a cigarette is (boy was True Detective's looming, lurking police higher-up stolen from here), what the doohickey is, why the corpses shriveled up, or what the two marks are. So I won't, damn it.

Date: 2016-01-28 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grashupfer.livejournal.com
I think the pilot is more Twin Peaksy than most of the first season. It's got teenagers and the Northwest vibe. So much that is good in the first two seasons is how much Duchovny cared about the show. He believed so he was believable amid the crappy sets and ridiculous plot.

Alias must be a connecting point. Lindelof loved XFiles and Alias, he said many times I've heard him speak and almost no artist ever has spoken so much in public.

Somebody made a Wikipedia page that lists only the mythology episodes of XFiles so one could watch those and skip all the non-continuity stuff but that might be like going back and watching Pearl Jam unplugged or something. You can't go back (at least to the 90's - that decade is resistant to time travel).

Date: 2016-01-28 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightspore.livejournal.com
I knew someone who directed Duchovny's senior thesis. She said he was smart. That is all.

Date: 2016-01-29 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] proximoception.livejournal.com
Julie and I still regularly crack up remembering the Alias episode where the lead makes everyone pass out with a radio wave thingie playing a sound on the same frequency as the human brain. That was the moment history hit peak Abrams.

Though the symbols on the doors in a late season 5 Fringe episode are up there. And either stayed completely unexplained or my memory just wants them that way.

The rebel war room scene in the last Star Wars movie indicates that on some level he knows that what he does is very silly.

Date: 2016-01-29 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grashupfer.livejournal.com
Fringe! Yeah I forgot about that show.

I got sucked into that one in a way I didn't with Alias. Alias never grabbed me in any way. I tried a couple of times to get into it. So many season 1 and 2s I watched for so many shows. So many millions of hours of seasons 3+ left unknown to me.

Date: 2016-01-29 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] proximoception.livejournal.com
I think we stopped at about the same point - whenever she wakes up in Tokyo after losing two years. It was simultaneously a great twist, or anyway a greatly Abrams twist, and a bad mistake because it basically suggested that everything was rebooting. For those of us who regretted getting sucked into many hours of inanity because of low tease-resistance it said "everybody off." Prison Break had the same problem after season 1 - "you're prison-broke, now go away." I think tease shows need even more takeaway than others, for this reason - lest you feel dragged rather than compelled. The answer to all television questions is Breaking Bad.

Date: 2016-02-03 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tdaschel.livejournal.com
(Twin Peaks was - in a sense - Green Acres reconfigured as teen murder mystery ..)

Date: 2016-02-05 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] proximoception.livejournal.com
Never watched that one.

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