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proximoceptionFargo 3.3
Definitely setting up technology as the problem: 1. the Leland actor's airplane speech where at the end we're to contemplate that people can be interpreted as able to fly now or instead as strapped to chairs, 2. the dudes at the diner on their cellphones doing nothing vs. Gloria doing legwork, 3. the Always Sunny in Philadelphia actor's inadvertantly damning touting of Facebook.
The android was supposed to be like Gloria, I guess, since she stuck around to finish her mission, and even though it was overall a fail by doing that managed to learn a bunch of things - like the existence of the real Stussy family. The switch in its head was like the trick box - you should keep trying to find things out even if you're stonewalled, like she was at almost every point. But she kept pushing and waiting till something came through.
The noncontradiction thing from the title was most clearly relevant to Leland's second speech, the anecdote about being both married and divorced, which is in turn reminiscent of Gloria's being presumptive chief until it's made clear that she already isn't. I guess that was true of the android's job too? There was no confirmation that he'd failed (or succeeded) so he just kept going. Her uncertainty about treating her ex-stepfather as family was another parallel - she mentioned it even though she wasn't sure if it counted, and people seemed to accept it based on the fact that she proceeded as though it were.
I guess the Santa Clauses reminded her of her ex-stepfather? Even though she no longer believed he was her father in any sense he still wore the suit? The people who played the role, legit or no, still exist, are still doing something somewhere? With both Santa and Stussy/Thaddeus she was still pretending they were who she'd represented them as to her son, who was of the age where he wasn't really buyinh Santa but where it wasn't clear if she should still keep up the pretense because it's more fun that way or keeps his childhood alive longer or something.
Not clear on the shoes, other than as an instance of her trying to solve mysteries, and maybe that doing so is her role.
Saying the actress was a bad person does not mean Thaddeus was a good one, that seems relevant too. Something zero sum about computer-type logic, as it were?
Is there some kind of basic computery thing happening with the trick box, what with the on/off switch? With a computer things are either 0 or 1, but with people they're not? People can both eat Arby's and solve murders? People can take a no for a yes and keep going. Meaning the technology thing is about impatience? Having an answer right away, rather than searching and waiting?
The producer had previously felt that collisions of particles had meaning, now thinks they're random, but in the past we see him justifying exploiting Thaddeus with that logic: either Thaddeus had been provided for him to exploit or he had been provided to instruct Thaddeus about how bad peoole are. But since Thaddeus then crippled him, which seems like a pointless outcome to him, collisions/meetings are just basically unmotivated violence? Thaddeus himself becomes embittered, so maybe is another casualty of the same logic. Whereas Gloria takes a different view of accidents, where perhaps they mean something and perhaps they don't, which lets her proceed as though there were meaning in the universe somewhere since it hasn't been proven there isn't?
The letters of Why being in the wrong order suggest what, that meaning requires a human contribution - what you find in life is neither intelligible nor unintelligible, but contains the materials for what can be made intelligible?
Will I get laid or not also seems like an "impatient" binary, as compared to Leland's savoring of Gloria's ambiguous response about whether she's single. Older way vs. newer/technology-corrupted.
Definitely setting up technology as the problem: 1. the Leland actor's airplane speech where at the end we're to contemplate that people can be interpreted as able to fly now or instead as strapped to chairs, 2. the dudes at the diner on their cellphones doing nothing vs. Gloria doing legwork, 3. the Always Sunny in Philadelphia actor's inadvertantly damning touting of Facebook.
The android was supposed to be like Gloria, I guess, since she stuck around to finish her mission, and even though it was overall a fail by doing that managed to learn a bunch of things - like the existence of the real Stussy family. The switch in its head was like the trick box - you should keep trying to find things out even if you're stonewalled, like she was at almost every point. But she kept pushing and waiting till something came through.
The noncontradiction thing from the title was most clearly relevant to Leland's second speech, the anecdote about being both married and divorced, which is in turn reminiscent of Gloria's being presumptive chief until it's made clear that she already isn't. I guess that was true of the android's job too? There was no confirmation that he'd failed (or succeeded) so he just kept going. Her uncertainty about treating her ex-stepfather as family was another parallel - she mentioned it even though she wasn't sure if it counted, and people seemed to accept it based on the fact that she proceeded as though it were.
I guess the Santa Clauses reminded her of her ex-stepfather? Even though she no longer believed he was her father in any sense he still wore the suit? The people who played the role, legit or no, still exist, are still doing something somewhere? With both Santa and Stussy/Thaddeus she was still pretending they were who she'd represented them as to her son, who was of the age where he wasn't really buyinh Santa but where it wasn't clear if she should still keep up the pretense because it's more fun that way or keeps his childhood alive longer or something.
Not clear on the shoes, other than as an instance of her trying to solve mysteries, and maybe that doing so is her role.
Saying the actress was a bad person does not mean Thaddeus was a good one, that seems relevant too. Something zero sum about computer-type logic, as it were?
Is there some kind of basic computery thing happening with the trick box, what with the on/off switch? With a computer things are either 0 or 1, but with people they're not? People can both eat Arby's and solve murders? People can take a no for a yes and keep going. Meaning the technology thing is about impatience? Having an answer right away, rather than searching and waiting?
The producer had previously felt that collisions of particles had meaning, now thinks they're random, but in the past we see him justifying exploiting Thaddeus with that logic: either Thaddeus had been provided for him to exploit or he had been provided to instruct Thaddeus about how bad peoole are. But since Thaddeus then crippled him, which seems like a pointless outcome to him, collisions/meetings are just basically unmotivated violence? Thaddeus himself becomes embittered, so maybe is another casualty of the same logic. Whereas Gloria takes a different view of accidents, where perhaps they mean something and perhaps they don't, which lets her proceed as though there were meaning in the universe somewhere since it hasn't been proven there isn't?
The letters of Why being in the wrong order suggest what, that meaning requires a human contribution - what you find in life is neither intelligible nor unintelligible, but contains the materials for what can be made intelligible?
Will I get laid or not also seems like an "impatient" binary, as compared to Leland's savoring of Gloria's ambiguous response about whether she's single. Older way vs. newer/technology-corrupted.
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Date: 2017-05-05 07:11 pm (UTC)This is all good stuff. The UFO anything more than an Easter egg for fans?
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Date: 2017-05-05 07:48 pm (UTC)